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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naw ig u don't know me see u around Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Naw ig u don't know me see u around Smile




see me around? sure just know that when i come visit my conceal allows me to have this with me....


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I LOL'd.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I LOL'd.


this is proof of this topic

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"The Gun Is Civilization"



By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)



Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.



In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.



When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.



The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.



There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat - it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.



People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.



Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.



People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.



The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.



When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... And that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So going to get walked on all day!


Awwwww is your convoy dwindling? Guess I could go to a car show and not have to risk it...... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Balt2NV wrote:
So going to get walked on all day!


Awwwww is your convoy dwindling? Guess I could go to a car show and not have to risk it...... Rolling Eyes


No as of today it got a lot bigger thanks for ur concern tho! Risk what? U being walked by Kelly and the bikes.....not my risk just urs Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy R wrote:
Orig. FKR wrote:
I LOL'd.


this is proof of this topic


Dunno how this got to talk of physical threats to anyone, explanation?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orig. FKR wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Orig. FKR wrote:
I LOL'd.


this is proof of this topic


Dunno how this got to talk of physical threats to anyone, explanation?


i was just posting it as i figured someone would say oh you pussy you need a gun...so i thought i would stop that in its tracks before someone tries to say it Smile that and if he was trying to imply something in there, im showing how i can level the playing field as im not a big guy. that and i thought it was a well writen article
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I'm a decent sized guy with a little bit of knowledge in HTHC thanks to Uncle Sam and I still carry.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is always someone bigger lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Balt2NV wrote:
FukYoMouF wrote:
Balt2NV wrote:
So going to get walked on all day!


Awwwww is your convoy dwindling? Guess I could go to a car show and not have to risk it...... Rolling Eyes


No as of today it got a lot bigger thanks for ur concern tho! Risk what? U being walked by Kelly and the bikes.....not my risk just urs Wink


Its okay, Im not scared to lose. Besides, when I do Ill just say Im stock. lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! How did a gun somehow find its way into this thread?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Balt2NV wrote:
FukYoMouF wrote:
Balt2NV wrote:
So going to get walked on all day!


Awwwww is your convoy dwindling? Guess I could go to a car show and not have to risk it...... Rolling Eyes


No as of today it got a lot bigger thanks for ur concern tho! Risk what? U being walked by Kelly and the bikes.....not my risk just urs Wink


Its okay, Im not scared to lose. Besides, when I do Ill just say Im stock. lol[/quote]

U claim stock.....that's for us cars who r stock :p

But I forgot when I was on just my intake and DR's I was fully built lol
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FukYoMouF wrote:
Wow! How did a gun somehow find its way into this thread?


it does say arf at the top right? lol i thought it was standard practice around here to thread jack...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phil is going to walk them all Twisted Evil
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